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well it's good to be back with you after

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a couple weeks off we I had to go to

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everything's still operative except I

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was telling Joe before the show started

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Heidi they're just overloaded with fat

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people oh my goodness fat people and

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7-foot tall guys you're such a sensitive

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person that's fat they know they're fat

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I mean 300-pound moose running around up

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there I mean in other words I go every

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year

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but I mean it just was an unusual

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I'm sorry Catholic of you to say such

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thing well look if they're hippos

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they're hippos it's not my fault I

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didn't make him that way but it was

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enough that was really striking out and

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you don't say 20 Hail Marys and 10 our

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fathers for this not really he knows

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they're fat you can't be all the

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Catholic you want but fats fat I mean I

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didn't make him that way but anyhow it

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was unusual collection of folks but now

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here's some here's some hot off the

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press news from CBS News tonight the

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evil filthy Boston Red Sox we're using

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electronic eavesdropping to sneak up on

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that's headlining news with Kim Jong Il

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act and ill and this hurricane coming I

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hate the Red Sox the manatees they're

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like the ancient enemy I've been rooting

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against them for 40 or 50 years you know

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okay right up okay maybe it isn't

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top-of-the-line news but it was on CBS

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News and on that same note Heidi San

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Antonio pretty big town it's like the

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12th or 13th biggest town of country is

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out of gas all the way Wow now where I'm

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in the Fort Worth area it's okay they

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got gas but San Antonio is flat out

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that's over a million people

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it's ruff and hurricane and hurricane

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Irma which is a category 5 is steaming

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into Florida and next couple days crazy

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180 mile plus winds that's just it

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you know this this unpredictable weather

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patterns these are gonna become more

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commonplace for that imaginary foe Trump

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calls you know climate change do you

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believe in climate change I'm curious

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yes I do

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Wow Wow from the Trump line yes but

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there's things you don't understand and

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we don't understand the whole universe

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the whole solar system rather has heated

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up as they can detect temperatures on

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Venus the Neptune all of that and nobody

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knows why that is so maybe 10 years ago

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or so you'd be able to turn on the news

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and know what the weather is going to be

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now you can't depend on them for nothing

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they can't get anything right

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unless it's staring them in the face

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terribly well no here here it's pretty

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accurate honestly have a lot of changing

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yeah over here it's it's so crazy it's

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nuts

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well they're pretty good on telling you

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the rain and stuff it's gonna rain

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tomorrow that's they're usually pretty

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accurate in that not here well I mean

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every place is different every place is

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different but this could really smack

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Florida boy already to Governor Scott of

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Florida is going crazy with crap you

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know prep work and which as much as he

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can do but you got to understand Miami's

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practically underwater anyway yeah it

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doesn't take anything to swamp Miami

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I've seen four foot of water on Miami

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streets from just a tropical storm let

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alone a category 5 hurricane and you

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know it's a glug glug glug in going on

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but I wouldn't want to be an insurance

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company in this this time I really

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wouldn't you know State Farm's good all

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they must State Farm is big in Texas too

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they must just be taking a kicking butt

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of course they've got billions anyway

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but now

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Obama's little legacy this daca thing is

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a big item in the news it's been

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discussed in recent days and well it's

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you know I you know you feel for kids

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and all this wringing of hands and all

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this stuff but look look look

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you know the dreamers and all that yeah

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yeah yeah but I mean I'm I don't want

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the wish too many he'll but this is not

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a grab bag for everybody in the world to

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come grab a hunk of America and steal

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the jobs and drive the price of housing

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up and the labor down and it's it's a

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bunch of BS Heidi I mean and it's just a

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lever because if the daca kids get to

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stay here then they'll bring Uncle Leo

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over and blah blah blah blah blah you

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know I mean you don't live with all the

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immigration we have down here and I've

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got nothing against Mexicans I really

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don't but I don't care if they're

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Canadians coming in here by the

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gazillion it drives the price of housing

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up it's just it's a real it's a real

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heart issue

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I do get torn on the issue on some

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things because I mean I I understand the

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fight I understand the argument but I

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also understand what the laws are and

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it's it's a touchy subject and I've

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known people who did not know they were

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illegal and went to apply for college

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and they're told then by the way you are

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not you know and it's just like what I

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mean parents hide these things from

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these weird things could happen I'll buy

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that but it's sad there's a way there's

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a way around all this that everybody

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seems to be intentionally stupid and I

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don't know why instead of all the wall

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all the wall stuff and wringing of hands

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have a verified okay for employment if

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you don't get verified in the national

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database you're out well yeah somebody

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hired for all this because they're the

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ones employing

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people that don't have faith but exactly

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if you hire somebody that doesn't isn't

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he verified you get it one immediate

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fine of like a hundred thousand dollars

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you don't like it you do five years in

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the federal pokey

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and no parole and that that would stop

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it in the morning we would have stopped

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it a long time ago it wouldn't have been

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something everybody's talking about he

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verified everybody's talked about that

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e-verify nonsense for seven or eight

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years so what is the real problem here

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taking money from the fridge well what

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it is I hate to say this but look look

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look you have to be reasonable there's

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500 million people that live in South

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America okay

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Mexico is another hundred million in

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that 600 million they can't all jam in

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here like a frat party Heidi they can't

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I know

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well yes but everybody wants to oh the

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food dreamers well go dream in Mexico oh

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that's a country do it

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knock yourself out dream all you want I

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guarantee you Heidi if you worked out

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there Dean they would give you a cheese

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sandwich yeah I understand I understand

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argument on both sides I really do it's

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a it's a touchy one but why don't they

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pivot another way like such sake Trump

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from this position you just want to hear

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all this ass about the wall he's tied to

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that yeah yeah yeah and he doesn't want

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to hear all this ass about oh you're in

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consider the poor little dreamers

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by the way Mexico is a country

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supposedly they could go down there and

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dream or do whatever they want to do

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down here I mean I got businesses work

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do it they're moving all kinds of auto

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factory still down there go bust your

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butt at Ford factory down in New Mexico

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knock yourself out dream down there you

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know I actually asked her I said what if

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that would happen that they would move

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everybody back and I'm like well you

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guys would build up that country to be

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serious competition even more so so but

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it's yeah I don't know it's touchy it's

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a hard one it's all a bunch of BS what

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it is come on now I mean there ain't 600

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million people down those those neck the

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woods all starving in the street or you

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hear about Saul you'd ever hear about

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they're not they just want to sell more

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drugs here

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not only that's not the only business

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going on well drugs and tortillas

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oh that's just low that's low well it's

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true that's what according to you know I

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live there all that lady how listen

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we're coming up to the minute top of the

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yet or our first break we'll be right

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what's great be back to Heidi and Heidi

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before we get into the subject matter

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there was something in the American

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Airlines magazine I'll send you if I

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could get my way to do it but he's a

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really cool story this guy was like

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overseas somewhere Australia or

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somewhere and he was running across the

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desert you know some kind of

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cross-country running he does and he

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comes across a stray dog right mm-hmm

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and the dog just adopts him and the dog

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runs the whole circuit with him and he

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of course he took it home with him and

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it was really pretty cute Wow well I

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mean dog was bothered with him and by

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the time the end of the run was over the

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dog would let him but even come near him

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because it was like bonded you know

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right right that's cool would have taken

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I would have taken one of my Chihuahua's

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with me but I don't know how and I did

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see some people down there with dogs I

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never got a chance to talk them about

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how they let him take them to go do

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their business and all that I never did

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figure that out somehow they work it out

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but I didn't see where the casinos were

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set up for it but maybe down on the

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strip but then I wasn't on the strip I

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was downtown on Fremont Street so they

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must have something figured out pretty

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darn cool Wow anyway we've got an

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interesting subject matter tonight and

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it's very strange and rare guest yes a

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very well actually a very learning yes

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really quite honored to have you but

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what it is Heidi as an overall it's on

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Eucharistic miracles oh we got a roll

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out the red carpet first for this this

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crazy rare guest of ours

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yes it's Kevin cook and he's got a

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master's in theology and he's

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and he's a holy man he loves everybody

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in fact yeah he does but masters in

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theology yes oh no I do I do that road I

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don't know if you've ever said that out

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loud or just in your head

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what yeah I do have nice Wow holy

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cannoli everybody you know I wasn't

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ordained Anglican deacon at one time Wow

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and well I knew that you did something

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that was of the church but then you fell

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away and went like rogue or something

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when you moved I just became everybody

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ought to be I mean it's have to be

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bonkers to do anything else but I mean

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once you learn learn all this and that's

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why I speak of the Eucharistic miracles

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thing because Heidi this is as real as

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to handle them in your arm and I you

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know of course I've spoken on other

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issues like we have the guy on the

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Shroud of Turin and russ berrie all few

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weeks back and and there's a lot of

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really proven stuff and of course of

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many times I've mentioned the film of

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Juan Diego that's you know image of Mary

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that's on display at the Basilica of

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Guadalupe and it's been subject to

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testing it's Sandia Labs and all this

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and it's it is a miraculous

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representation there's no way to

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replicate it and the Eucharistic miracle

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because it's I mean it's it is to me

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this is pretty cool it is pretty cool

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and what I thought the first part of the

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show I thought I would give a little bit

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of rundown into some of the older wants

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to show how far back these things you

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know go and you know buy five of the old

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ones and then five of the the current

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ones the last 25 years and the first one

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I had was and the miracle of Lanciano

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that la NCI and o is from the 8th

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century and a priest in Lanciano Italy

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was actually experiencing doubts about

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the real presence of Jesus and the and

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the Eucharist

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and saying in the mass this is my body

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this is my blood etc and he actually saw

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the bread and wine transform into real

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flesh and blood the wine coagulated two

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five globules and said later to be

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representative of the five wounds of

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Christ and you know word of the miracle

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spread the local Archbishop even then

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you know launched investigation and the

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church did approve the miracle now

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interestingly the flesh is still

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preserved to this day Wow a professor of

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anatomy I'm not very good at Italian

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pronunciations but adored adored Oh

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lenola

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conducted a scientific analysis of the

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flesh in 1971 and concluded the flesh

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was cardiac cardiac tissue the blood

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appeared to be fresh blood as opposed to

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blood that was you know you know old and

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there was no trace of preserved it's

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neither and you could visit this at the

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Church of San Francisco at lanciano

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Italy to this day wow that's amazing

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see that's the thing these are not

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hidden in a monastery somewhere and you

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know nobody knows what happened to it or

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you know any of this double talk

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nonsense this is available today that

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dates from the 8th century and then the

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second one was the Corporal of ball C no

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ball Sina and this was also an Italian

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event and well basically it's on display

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in that city as well

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but I mean these are issues they're real

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issues and there's another Italian one

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go ahead I mean have these things been

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any of them been tested for say DNA yes

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yes they have they have just like well

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we'll get into that as a gallops okay

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third there's the hosts of Siena Italy

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something out can pronounce at least and

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this was on August 14 1730

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the Catholics of Siena Italy were

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attending a special festival on the eve

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of the Feast of the Assumption geez

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under the church

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Oh st. Francis stole a golden ciborium

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where they keep the wafers and it

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contained hundreds of consecrated hosts

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two days later somebody noticed

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something white protruding from the

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offering box another Church pretty soap

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in the box and found the missing host

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inside and tangled in cobwebs and dirt I

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don't know why knows but after being

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cleaned as much as possible the hosts

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were paid anew in a new ciborium and

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taken back to the church for prayers of

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reparation generation but that's about

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all that happened the hosts were dirty

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and of course they couldn't feed them to

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people and mass so they were gonna let

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them simply deteriorate and over the

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next few decades everyone was amazed to

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see the hosts did not deteriorate but

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actually appeared fresh now here's the

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kicker the hosts remain in this state

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today

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two hundred and eighty-five years later

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and can still be seen now at the

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they've not deteriorate it gets spicier

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than that but this is just these older

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ones right now there was one that

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happened at the miracle of oh my

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goodness these are some mouth breaking

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names oh here we go

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sure Atacama India that's that's like

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that's so not easiest thing say and

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there was egoistic adoration st. Mary's

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Parish and three red stains materialized

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on the host the priest didn't know what

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to do when he placed the host back in

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the tabernacle a few days later he

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retrieved the host to examine it again

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and the red stains had arranged

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themselves and I'm looking at the photo

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right now to look like the face of Jesus

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he quickly found a photographer and he

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folded the host and they're also

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available for you know I'm viewing and

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now here's the fifth older one that the

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other was that's really new and but

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here's the these are like the lesser

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examples then we'll deal with the real

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specific and thoroughgoing

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samples okay Eucharistic miracle of

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Santarem from the 13th century and

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portugal and a woman was living in San

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Tara and Portugal the 13th century and

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was distressed that her husband was

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unfaithful to her and she decided to

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consult a sorceress for help and the

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sorceress told her the price of her

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services was a consecrated host she she

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went to Mass the church is saying

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Stephen received the Eucharist on her

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tongue removed the Eucharist from her

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mouth wrapped it in her veil headed to

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the door of the church before she got

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out the host began to bleed okay alright

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now when she got home she put the

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bloodied host of that trunk that night a

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miraculous light emanated from the trunk

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she repented of what she had done and

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the next morning confessed to her priest

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but priest came and retrieved the host

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and took it back to the church after an

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investigation approval of the miracle

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Church was renamed church of the holy

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miracle the bloody host remains on

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display to this day so these are all

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like Catholic recognized miracles yes

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they are like and that's not even the

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five ones yeah Wow

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we'll see yeah I understand the one

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thing the one thing I will say bucket

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solecism is there the most exhausting

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Devils when it comes to investigating

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something right for example well O Lord

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mercy met you gory is still there still

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wrestling with that after all these many

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years and that that apparition that was

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just approved Our Lady of good help in

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Wisconsin it took again several decades

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to finally come to grips with in other

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words they do not approve things willy

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nilly they do not and if look I wrote

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I'm interrupted the book I wrote married

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a person is a real there's like 2,000

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different mentions the International

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Marion research has to evaporation the

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events that they've looked into and only

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13 have been approved

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out of a couple fouls do you think that

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maybe that might be limiting some of the

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knowledge out there of other miracles

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because they scrutinize so much and you

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know sometimes when you're looking at

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and many witnesses you gotta wonder like

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my goodness well I agree with you Heidi

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I mean I have to agree you have to be

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realistic I mean even the FBI has to get

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on with it sometime but you know well if

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all I'm saying

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may be yes they air too much on the side

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of caution I'll certainly admit that to

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take decades and decades to come to a

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conclusion and you're your own you know

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I think individuals who have experienced

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miracles like you have even you know

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little little ones here and there you're

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like wow if people and only understood

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the magnitude of what I just experienced

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oh you want to change things and there's

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so much out there so much other well

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there is I've expressed I've mentioned

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before you privately and and sometimes

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to others is that I've experienced half

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a dozen or ten miracles it's st.

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Elizabeth's here and I talked to my

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priest all the time and you know I've

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mentioned to him you said Kevin don't

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feel like The Lone Ranger it happens all

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the time around here and it really does

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it's not you know that I'm all that holy

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or anything it's just that it happens

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when you're devout Catholic and now I

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did talk this one gal was devout

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Catholics I've been a Catholic all my

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ear all my life and I never anything

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like that but you know she may be a

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pickle - no what I'm saying is she's a

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good-looking pickle well but what I'm

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saying is it does happen a lot and even

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when I had that chill that went through

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me the first time I was going through

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the study course to become a Catholic

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and I crossed myself with holy water the

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first two times felt chill go through my

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torso I told the deacon that he said keV

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that happens all the time around here in

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other words these weren't these weren't

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being flippant about it it's just a

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common thing and father Gary my priest

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he said that's it's common as sneezin

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around there so it's even first not nan

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calf

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we experience some things too and yeah

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just think that the presence of God is

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so much more than people realize because

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well the church did acknowledge it 100%

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you know it's like oh I don't even

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mention some of the smaller things that

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happened because it's maybe not dramatic

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enough to intrigue was the audience or

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whatever but I'm you know for whatever

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it's worth God does love me and you know

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miserable old curmudgeon than I am and

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and I I get little hunches sometimes and

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they're almost invariably you know

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positive and reassuring and the best one

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I had personally really at the church

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was the one where I had that grieving

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feeling for a guy that was like a second

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father to me I mentioned to you before

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and I mentioned that my my priest and he

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said certainly Kevin you must not think

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that was a coincidence something you're

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not that's thick-headed you know you

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have to be hit over the head with a

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hammer I mean it was just kind of a

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reassuring thing that there's more to

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this than just the you know the gravel

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and the parking lot and all that and it

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is reassuring it really is but the I do

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think yes the church is a little too

519
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conservative with these things but if

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okay I've always wanted to write a book

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on initial experiences upon entering the

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Catholic Church like I did you know many

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years ago and unfortunately catholic

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digest it used to be cloud like their

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version of Reader's Digest is kind of

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you know with magazines gone by the way

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you know like many magazines have but I

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was going to put that in there and I was

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going to get people that were are CIA

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graduates you know from the entry

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program that have experiences like how I

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had that are kind of like spiritual

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Pat's on the head if you will and idea I

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could write a book 500 pages long on

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those I just don't know how to have

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access to that info like catholic digest

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would have been but I guarantee you I

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could Heidi I mean story after story

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after story I mean hundreds of them and

540
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:11,670
I know there were a couple of the people

541
00:24:16,730 --> 00:24:13,110
that were in my class that I did

542
00:24:19,070 --> 00:24:16,740
graduate from that did have similar kind

543
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:19,080
of uplifting experiences and you know

544
00:24:22,370 --> 00:24:21,090
I'm not trying to be a creep about it

545
00:24:25,010 --> 00:24:22,380
I'm not saying it doesn't happen in

546
00:24:26,750 --> 00:24:25,020
other churches and all that but it sure

547
00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:26,760
didn't happen the Episcopal Church I was

548
00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:29,100
connected with or the Methodists either

549
00:24:35,780 --> 00:24:32,790
boy I mean I'm not saying it didn't you

550
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:35,790
know but it didn't to me and it's as

551
00:24:39,890 --> 00:24:37,770
common as dust on the road in the

552
00:24:44,270 --> 00:24:39,900
Catholic Church so for whatever that's

553
00:24:45,770 --> 00:24:44,280
worth I do think you know I will say

554
00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:45,780
this I do think there's a degree of

555
00:24:49,659 --> 00:24:47,130
devotion in the Catholic Church you

556
00:24:51,770 --> 00:24:49,669
don't find in some other denominations I

557
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:51,780
don't think that's true

558
00:24:57,770 --> 00:24:55,049
I mean it's everybody's don't know the

559
00:24:59,690 --> 00:24:57,780
hearts of the people well I mean I just

560
00:25:02,000 --> 00:24:59,700
see people at daily Mass that you don't

561
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:02,010
usually see anywhere else but hey right

562
00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:03,840
you know I can't let hairs because I

563
00:25:06,980 --> 00:25:04,980
don't have access to all the information

564
00:25:08,299 --> 00:25:06,990
but right about at the bottom of the

565
00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:08,309
hour break and when we come back we'll

566
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:10,260
talk about the five very well

567
00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:14,720
scientifically studied examples

568
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:19,020
be back with Heidi and Heidi the the

569
00:25:26,690 --> 00:25:20,970
other five that were all from the last

570
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:26,700
25 years are pretty well scientifically

571
00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:31,200
studied and now most of my scientific

572
00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:34,260
preparation I had in college was in

573
00:25:42,620 --> 00:25:37,880
physics or electronics it wasn't in

574
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:42,630
anything medically oriented but I was

575
00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:45,120
interested in other things and those

576
00:25:51,610 --> 00:25:48,630
times but there's some really good

577
00:25:54,260 --> 00:25:51,620
Eucharistic miracles in last 25 years

578
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:54,270
one of them Heidi was the parish of st.

579
00:26:03,440 --> 00:25:57,600
Mary and Buenos Aires Argentina mm-hmm

580
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:03,450
and this was actually had Pope Francis

581
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:05,970
was at the time the Archbishop of that

582
00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:08,490
area that it had occurred it happened in

583
00:26:13,549 --> 00:26:09,240
96

584
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:13,559
and you had bleeding a host a host

585
00:26:18,740 --> 00:26:15,000
started bleeding when it was consecrated

586
00:26:23,419 --> 00:26:18,750
that's the wafer and part of it became

587
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:23,429
human tissue oh gosh no vagues they

588
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:26,000
submitted this to you know extensive

589
00:26:28,999 --> 00:26:27,120
examined

590
00:26:31,399 --> 00:26:29,009
this wasn't just you know a couple guys

591
00:26:35,090 --> 00:26:31,409
in the back room I mean really you know

592
00:26:39,730 --> 00:26:35,100
it's 96 it isn't like you know 1806 or

593
00:26:43,389 --> 00:26:39,740
anything and it was an upon examination

594
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,399
it belonged to a person in intense pain

595
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:45,600
having trouble breathing they could tell

596
00:26:52,489 --> 00:26:49,289
that from the tissue and the tissue

597
00:26:55,369 --> 00:26:52,499
showed signs of being alive and here's

598
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:55,379
the evidence of it was intact white

599
00:27:00,830 --> 00:26:59,279
blood cells oh my god Wow see I didn't

600
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:00,840
know all about medicine I like I said

601
00:27:05,060 --> 00:27:02,970
enough medicine stick and a thimble but

602
00:27:07,369 --> 00:27:05,070
evidently white blood cells cannot exist

603
00:27:11,779 --> 00:27:07,379
in tissue over 15 minutes outside the

604
00:27:15,889 --> 00:27:11,789
body and now this is heavy weight stuff

605
00:27:19,789 --> 00:27:15,899
here yeah and and then it goes on from

606
00:27:23,330 --> 00:27:19,799
there they had the parish of st.

607
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:23,340
Martin's of Tours in 2006 and and here

608
00:27:30,379 --> 00:27:26,399
we go text a lot Mexico boy I'm getting

609
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:30,389
a linguistic language lesson tonight see

610
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:32,610
all I remember from high school was I

611
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:35,360
was in love with this French teacher and

612
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:38,690
certain other accoutrement she had I

613
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:43,049
thought no great linguist but which is

614
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:44,399
too bad because you know my grandfather

615
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:47,610
spoke 10 languages that's wow that's

616
00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:50,580
wild that's a lot but I I missed out on

617
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:54,840
that but anyhow the host that was

618
00:28:02,419 --> 00:27:57,440
distributing at st. Martin's of Tours

619
00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:02,429
was showing red red marks on it they

620
00:28:07,509 --> 00:28:04,409
submitted to two studies of forensic

621
00:28:10,220 --> 00:28:07,519
experts using different methods that

622
00:28:11,810 --> 00:28:10,230
showed the blood coming from inside the

623
00:28:15,049 --> 00:28:11,820
host as opposed to just something you

624
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:15,059
dollop Don on them or something now here

625
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:17,369
is more than it he gets gritty the blood

626
00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:20,159
type was a B+ the same type as other

627
00:28:28,249 --> 00:28:21,990
Eucharistic miracles and the Shroud of

628
00:28:32,029 --> 00:28:28,259
Turin oh wow 2010 cops right go ahead

629
00:28:36,909 --> 00:28:32,039
well I'm just curious with these

630
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:36,919
literally like physical things that are

631
00:28:42,049 --> 00:28:39,929
manifesting in front of people are they

632
00:28:46,110 --> 00:28:42,059
like pill

633
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:46,120
towards these things to seek miracles or

634
00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:47,770
miracles being reported oh no these are

635
00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:50,409
just people no no these well I don't

636
00:28:55,230 --> 00:28:52,750
know about ancillary miracles but I mean

637
00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:55,240
the people that are the exam examining

638
00:28:58,289 --> 00:28:56,710
this or just people like a priest you

639
00:28:59,789 --> 00:28:58,299
know giving out the hosts I mean going

640
00:29:02,880 --> 00:28:59,799
through the normal service I mean isn't

641
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:02,890
but they keep these things like you said

642
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:04,480
you could still go and visit some of

643
00:29:09,779 --> 00:29:07,450
these and it's like whoa oh yes yes to

644
00:29:12,409 --> 00:29:09,789
seek a miracle for themselves as well

645
00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:12,419
some are some are but most of these

646
00:29:15,899 --> 00:29:14,380
originated just in a regular church

647
00:29:19,970 --> 00:29:15,909
service see that's all I'm saying

648
00:29:22,909 --> 00:29:19,980
right like reported miracles in

649
00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:22,919
association with these miracles you know

650
00:29:28,919 --> 00:29:25,990
yes there have I don't have

651
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:28,929
and also not listed in this five I was

652
00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:31,120
going through but there was a very

653
00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:35,260
famous apparition with Maria Esperanza

654
00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:38,860
it was in Battaglia and South America

655
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:43,929
and they as well and they this went on

656
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:45,520
for a period of years where there were

657
00:29:51,060 --> 00:29:47,200
visions of the Virgin Mary and

658
00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:51,070
apparitions and during some of these

659
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:53,590
apparitional events they had the hosts

660
00:29:59,340 --> 00:29:57,730
would glow red and and there were many

661
00:30:00,990 --> 00:29:59,350
miracles connected with that you know

662
00:30:03,690 --> 00:30:01,000
cures from this that or the other I mean

663
00:30:06,570 --> 00:30:03,700
the whole look up Maria Esperanza on

664
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:06,580
Google and it'll show a whole botanial

665
00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:08,970
it'll show a whole pot pourri of

666
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:11,080
miraculous events that happened - and

667
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:13,690
you know of course it Lourdes there's a

668
00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:16,990
very excellent I mean excellent I don't

669
00:30:20,399 --> 00:30:18,520
mean anything half-baked about it

670
00:30:22,730 --> 00:30:20,409
medical department that's connected with

671
00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:22,740
Lourdes that investigates all the

672
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:25,000
alleged cures and there had been some

673
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:28,809
cures that were just oh hi II going back

674
00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:30,370
forever that had just been like

675
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:32,200
dumbfounding I mean people that were

676
00:30:35,340 --> 00:30:34,210
crippled for thirty years and they go to

677
00:30:38,430 --> 00:30:35,350
Lourdes and they throw their crutches

678
00:30:40,590 --> 00:30:38,440
away and I mean this is not and this is

679
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:40,600
not me making it up or anything else I

680
00:30:44,370 --> 00:30:42,610
mean it's a matter of fact a lot of

681
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:44,380
times you'll see that at these places

682
00:30:49,769 --> 00:30:45,850
like Lourdes you'll see the crutches

683
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:49,779
they left I think that that's so

684
00:30:54,340 --> 00:30:52,960
fascinating to me I love those types of

685
00:30:57,460 --> 00:30:54,350
stories loving

686
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:57,470
all wits is true is as true gets and I

687
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:59,360
mean Heidi there's people like I say

688
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:01,039
that have been wheelchair ridden for

689
00:31:05,980 --> 00:31:03,289
what a couple decades and gone and

690
00:31:09,070 --> 00:31:05,990
walked out of there I mean this is not

691
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:09,080
and remissions of cancer when they were

692
00:31:14,169 --> 00:31:11,840
at the best door from it I mean I mean

693
00:31:17,230 --> 00:31:14,179
this is not you know hocus-pocus stuff

694
00:31:19,629 --> 00:31:17,240
this is for real deal we have something

695
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:19,639
like that in Wisconsin called Holy Hill

696
00:31:24,850 --> 00:31:22,250
and you'll find crutches and wheelchairs

697
00:31:27,999 --> 00:31:24,860
where people just came healed and and

698
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,009
leave it oh yeah I mean that's been well

699
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:30,559
reputed and I mean this is good stuff

700
00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:33,679
this is uplifting stuff and I don't care

701
00:31:40,060 --> 00:31:37,070
all these goateed pulling uh supposed to

702
00:31:41,950 --> 00:31:40,070
know what all professors looki you get

703
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:41,960
smacked in the faces you have by these

704
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:44,960
things and I have and are you know all

705
00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:46,970
the little MS degrees and physics make

706
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:48,409
about as much difference as a coca-cola

707
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,490
can I mean you know come on I mean this

708
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:54,320
is so when something I will say this to

709
00:31:58,210 --> 00:31:56,090
the audience and Heidi can verify the

710
00:32:02,190 --> 00:31:58,220
same when you're faced with this kind of

711
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:02,200
demonstrable vision of the holy

712
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:05,600
everything else is like so much dust I

713
00:32:11,310 --> 00:32:08,450
mean you know and all the suppose that

714
00:32:14,169 --> 00:32:11,320
knowledge all these people yeah yeah

715
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:14,179
long I mean it leaves you in the dust is

716
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,710
what it does it's awesome it's

717
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:17,600
awe-inspiring is what it is it really is

718
00:32:23,710 --> 00:32:21,710
yeah now further on this same miracle at

719
00:32:29,009 --> 00:32:23,720
st. Martin's in Mexico

720
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:29,019
a 2010 micro analysis showed much of the

721
00:32:33,639 --> 00:32:31,610
blood on the host had coagulated but

722
00:32:39,009 --> 00:32:33,649
showed internally it was still seeping

723
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:39,019
four years later studies also show once

724
00:32:46,539 --> 00:32:41,360
again the the tissue was heart muscle as

725
00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:46,549
in the Buenos Aires exam now in India at

726
00:32:54,850 --> 00:32:52,190
Church of st. Mary 2001 it occurred

727
00:32:58,029 --> 00:32:54,860
during a novena you know series of

728
00:32:59,889 --> 00:32:58,039
prayers to st. Jude the priests exposed

729
00:33:02,379 --> 00:32:59,899
the sacrament for adoration and saw

730
00:33:04,750 --> 00:33:02,389
three hosts with dots on them report to

731
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:04,760
the bishop but now show discernible face

732
00:33:07,010 --> 00:33:06,289
once again that's that's measured in

733
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:07,020
this

734
00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:18,000
1300s don't mind loud helicopter it

735
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:19,830
sounds like Obama just got in the town

736
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:23,970
again maybe somebody will shoot it down

737
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:28,410
oh oh no I don't want him shot down I

738
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:32,640
just wanted thrown in prison but by the

739
00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:39,090
way I know but in Venezuela 91 at the

740
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:40,950
Marian shrine affected batana

741
00:33:46,460 --> 00:33:43,890
a priest to fight of the hosts into four

742
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:46,470
parts and can he consume one part as as

743
00:33:51,860 --> 00:33:48,960
the normal could post put the host back

744
00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:51,870
on the plate and saw one piece had a red

745
00:34:00,140 --> 00:33:54,600
dot on it and it continued to exude

746
00:34:01,730 --> 00:34:00,150
blood get this it was analyzed by 500

747
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:01,740
different scientists in the World Health

748
00:34:08,870 --> 00:34:05,220
Organization it matched other miracles

749
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:08,880
and having an a B+ form of blood from a

750
00:34:15,590 --> 00:34:12,690
living heart tissue it can be seen to

751
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:15,600
this day Meredith just 91 it's not that

752
00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:17,399
far back but it could be seen to the

753
00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:19,230
stay at the convent of this of the

754
00:34:29,570 --> 00:34:23,310
Augustinian nuns of the Sacred Heart of

755
00:34:33,290 --> 00:34:29,580
Jesus and lost Teague's te GU es and the

756
00:34:36,860 --> 00:34:33,300
final one was in Poland 2008 no Heidi

757
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:36,870
here we go yes parishes the parishes st.

758
00:34:42,110 --> 00:34:40,130
Anthony that's a cult cop in Poland

759
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:42,120
Holton fell to the ground and the

760
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:43,770
priests thought it was dirty so he put

761
00:34:47,570 --> 00:34:45,810
it in water and the idea of being is

762
00:34:49,370 --> 00:34:47,580
that he would dissolve in water because

763
00:34:51,889 --> 00:34:49,380
they don't just throw host I've been you

764
00:34:54,139 --> 00:34:51,899
know you know in the ashcan they just

765
00:34:55,970 --> 00:34:54,149
you know I have a more you know

766
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:55,980
dignified way getting rid of him there

767
00:35:02,750 --> 00:34:57,450
he put in water with the idea that would

768
00:35:04,830 --> 00:35:02,760
dissolve but here's what happened what

769
00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:04,840
happened was

770
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:06,700
it didn't dissolve and it looked like a

771
00:35:13,410 --> 00:35:10,090
blood clot huh they had intense stunts

772
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:13,420
and intense study - big-time polish

773
00:35:19,650 --> 00:35:16,810
scientists a woman named ATLA betta so

774
00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:19,660
bad eh I got through that one in medical

775
00:35:28,610 --> 00:35:24,430
university and viola stock and a holy

776
00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:28,620
moly a professor stanislao Stanislaw

777
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:32,740
sokowski these were two of the hottest

778
00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:34,930
medical professors they had in Poland

779
00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:38,440
they studied these these posts

780
00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:43,510
independently as sokowski studied them

781
00:35:47,970 --> 00:35:46,390
without knowledge of their origin they

782
00:35:49,470 --> 00:35:47,980
just said look study this we're not

783
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:49,480
gonna give you a whole rundown you just

784
00:35:56,070 --> 00:35:52,930
study it and he said okay what happened

785
00:35:58,590 --> 00:35:56,080
was it was shown once again to be a

786
00:36:03,240 --> 00:35:58,600
human cardiac tissue that was still

787
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:03,250
alive both scientists both scientists

788
00:36:09,690 --> 00:36:05,290
who were the top scientists and physical

789
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:09,700
Aaron you know medicine in Poland said

790
00:36:14,430 --> 00:36:12,490
without doubt no one could replicate it

791
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:14,440
both science agreed both scientists

792
00:36:19,550 --> 00:36:17,170
agreed this was a miracle take it to the

793
00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:19,560
bank don't argue about it it just was

794
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:22,750
why isn't this front page news I mean

795
00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:25,060
really well see that's that's my issue

796
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:27,340
that I've wondered before and I'm not

797
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:29,440
just trying to drive drop the bum beat

798
00:36:32,670 --> 00:36:31,210
the drum for the Catholic Church I mean

799
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:32,680
yes there's good Christians in every

800
00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:34,240
denomination you know even the

801
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:37,750
Methodists what I'm saying what I just

802
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:39,250
said that because you were obviously I

803
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:42,370
mean because you know actually one of

804
00:36:47,310 --> 00:36:45,490
the most formative women in my life was

805
00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:47,320
one of my babysitter's cuz my mother was

806
00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:50,950
a very rich woman that would go to the

807
00:36:54,570 --> 00:36:53,140
engineer's convention in San Francisco

808
00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:54,580
and she had that somebody watch me write

809
00:36:59,880 --> 00:36:57,730
and you know my parents were divorced

810
00:37:04,710 --> 00:36:59,890
you know he can't just leave me in a

811
00:37:08,340 --> 00:37:04,720
cage and although if I was with the dogs

812
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:08,350
I wouldn't care but what it was was mrs.

813
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:11,200
Van Dusen was like my like my godmother

814
00:37:16,530 --> 00:37:12,370
or something and she was a Presbyterian

815
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,540
and she's probably the most formative

816
00:37:18,609 --> 00:37:18,160
person in my whole life as far as

817
00:37:22,359 --> 00:37:18,619
Christi

818
00:37:23,739 --> 00:37:22,369
and she was a fine woman but a rake what

819
00:37:26,650 --> 00:37:23,749
I'm saying is I obviously I'm not

820
00:37:30,940 --> 00:37:26,660
against all Protestants or anything I'm

821
00:37:33,569 --> 00:37:30,950
not silly but what I'm saying is these

822
00:37:35,529 --> 00:37:33,579
are things that's the thing the

823
00:37:38,289 --> 00:37:35,539
dumbfounded me Heidi I'm glad you

824
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:38,299
brought that up is it's like in the book

825
00:37:42,759 --> 00:37:41,119
I wrote on Marian apparitions I'm

826
00:37:45,009 --> 00:37:42,769
thinking what is the matter with people

827
00:37:46,779 --> 00:37:45,019
they're worried about like the guy that

828
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:46,789
was gonna write the foreword to it the

829
00:37:52,450 --> 00:37:51,710
professor from TCU he he was saying my

830
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:52,460
goodness

831
00:37:57,729 --> 00:37:55,249
people are just go shivers about some

832
00:38:00,459 --> 00:37:57,739
ghostly orb they might see it you know

833
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:00,469
the great what was that thing at the

834
00:38:06,549 --> 00:38:03,890
time few years ago the oh the

835
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:06,559
transatlantic go Society whatever it was

836
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:07,910
called you know the two guys would

837
00:38:13,709 --> 00:38:09,890
always have the Ghost Hunters these

838
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:13,719
people perhaps that's it that's yeah

839
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:16,910
yeah I forget it was the Atlantic

840
00:38:21,609 --> 00:38:20,210
Paranormal Society okay but I mean you

841
00:38:23,289 --> 00:38:21,619
know everybody would just do double

842
00:38:25,180 --> 00:38:23,299
backflips for these guys and they had a

843
00:38:27,729 --> 00:38:25,190
weekly show they became millionaires so

844
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:27,739
just the plumbers they were and they did

845
00:38:31,959 --> 00:38:30,170
a credible job but I mean you know this

846
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:31,969
was so minor-league compared to this

847
00:38:36,609 --> 00:38:33,920
this was baby stuff people getting

848
00:38:40,089 --> 00:38:36,619
chills oh did we see an orb no the

849
00:38:43,180 --> 00:38:40,099
ghosts the ghosts playing cards in the

850
00:38:46,959 --> 00:38:43,190
closet or something you know and this is

851
00:38:50,019 --> 00:38:46,969
so much more majestic and once again I'm

852
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:50,029
tying it back in with the stuff that we

853
00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:52,249
talked about earlier like the image of

854
00:38:57,759 --> 00:38:55,190
that the tilma of juan diego that was

855
00:39:00,579 --> 00:38:57,769
study by Sandia Labs the best testing

856
00:39:03,249 --> 00:39:00,589
facility in the world physical testing

857
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:03,259
facility and people don't know there's

858
00:39:07,539 --> 00:39:05,089
not one person in five thousand that

859
00:39:11,319 --> 00:39:07,549
know they tested this this tilma and it

860
00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:11,329
was exam Barachias object and you're

861
00:39:16,539 --> 00:39:13,099
talking people of electron microscopes

862
00:39:19,569 --> 00:39:16,549
that could see anything okay nope no

863
00:39:23,499 --> 00:39:19,579
pigment no tracing couldn't replicate it

864
00:39:25,329 --> 00:39:23,509
if you had a 45 to their head and really

865
00:39:29,260 --> 00:39:25,339
the same thing to be said about the

866
00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:29,270
Shroud of Turin right

867
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:30,790
but that's never had the testing that

868
00:39:35,950 --> 00:39:33,200
Mattel has had because you know access

869
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:35,960
to Sandia Labs etc so what I'm saying is

870
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:37,610
Heidi you do scratch your head and say

871
00:39:43,630 --> 00:39:39,890
these things are so majestic so powerful

872
00:39:46,570 --> 00:39:43,640
so life-changing potentially and it's

873
00:39:47,980 --> 00:39:46,580
like people either go home like it's all

874
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:47,990
a bunch of Catholic stuff cuz they

875
00:39:52,420 --> 00:39:49,280
they've got something against

876
00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:52,430
Catholicism or else they don't realize

877
00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:54,940
being Catholic they don't realize how

878
00:40:02,080 --> 00:39:59,170
absolutely exact exasperatingly

879
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:02,090
efficient they are and being exhausting

880
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:04,130
and testing these things out proving

881
00:40:08,290 --> 00:40:05,570
they take decades longer than they

882
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:08,300
should they don't realize they don't

883
00:40:11,170 --> 00:40:09,770
realize take the enormity of what

884
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:11,180
they're doing but talk about God here

885
00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:12,890
man we're not talking about the aliens

886
00:40:16,410 --> 00:40:15,710
coming by this live I or something you

887
00:40:18,580 --> 00:40:16,420
know right

888
00:40:24,820 --> 00:40:18,590
Bigfoot jumping around a swamp in

889
00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:24,830
Florida so what what it is Heidi is this

890
00:40:29,890 --> 00:40:27,350
is majestic stuff and I like I say in

891
00:40:34,060 --> 00:40:29,900
the Marian apparitions book I mean this

892
00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:34,070
stuff is so little studied Heidi and

893
00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:36,350
Eucharistic miracles are fairly well

894
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:38,030
known to Catholics but frankly not even

895
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:40,970
Catholics talk about it much I am I've

896
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:43,550
not heard of this before it's well you

897
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:45,890
went to a Catholic ah yeah I mean you

898
00:40:50,830 --> 00:40:46,970
would think the Catholics would be

899
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:50,840
gassing about it all the time well yeah

900
00:40:59,320 --> 00:40:52,670
I didn't hear about this stuff I don't

901
00:41:02,260 --> 00:40:59,330
know I I was buried in school work you

902
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:02,270
know like I go to st. Elizabeth's

903
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,160
they're not buzzing around about this

904
00:41:08,590 --> 00:41:06,400
all the time they just take it in stride

905
00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:08,600
because like I say when you're talking

906
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:10,070
about a church where so many things

907
00:41:14,350 --> 00:41:11,570
happen that I imagine things happen to

908
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:14,360
neither to the priest no you know it's

909
00:41:17,590 --> 00:41:15,890
okay Kevin it's just standard fare

910
00:41:19,150 --> 00:41:17,600
around here I mean he wasn't putting me

911
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:19,160
down but he was saying you know grab

912
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:23,210
what you know grab a number you know but

913
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:25,070
I mean in other words they live with it

914
00:41:32,290 --> 00:41:29,570
all the time and what I meant by the

915
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:32,300
devout business before the break was

916
00:41:35,890 --> 00:41:34,490
like I'll go in you know I told you

917
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:35,900
before I'm kind of like one of those old

918
00:41:40,530 --> 00:41:37,730
Sicilian women I'll go in a couple times

919
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:40,540
a week and light a candle sometimes and

920
00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:42,730
every week for sure

921
00:41:48,190 --> 00:41:45,380
sometimes twice a week usually once I

922
00:41:51,850 --> 00:41:48,200
guess but but I mean I'm always doing

923
00:41:54,070 --> 00:41:51,860
that and the same bunch is there all the

924
00:41:56,620 --> 00:41:54,080
time when they've got time off and this

925
00:41:58,060 --> 00:41:56,630
one guy he practically lives at the

926
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:58,070
church because sometimes on Saturday

927
00:42:02,470 --> 00:41:59,920
I'll go to the Saturday morning service

928
00:42:06,850 --> 00:42:02,480
instead instead of the Sunday because

929
00:42:13,710 --> 00:42:06,860
I'm on Oh Heidi I'm a claustrophobic I

930
00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:13,720
don't like crowds I know but I was drunk

931
00:42:17,980 --> 00:42:16,760
no I wasn't I brought that much that's

932
00:42:21,550 --> 00:42:17,990
really not true I have a couple of

933
00:42:24,130 --> 00:42:21,560
drinks let him go but and past years

934
00:42:26,980 --> 00:42:24,140
I've been drunk but but no I it wasn't

935
00:42:29,010 --> 00:42:26,990
as crowded as all that really it wasn't

936
00:42:32,260 --> 00:42:29,020
as crowded as going to a church that

937
00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:32,270
holds 2,500 people they've got standing

938
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:34,910
room along the walls and even in the

939
00:42:40,510 --> 00:42:37,520
vestibule in the front we're standing

940
00:42:42,370 --> 00:42:40,520
room only that gives you gives me that's

941
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:42,380
why I couldn't stand Mardi Gras and New

942
00:42:46,690 --> 00:42:44,290
Orleans now that was a good example

943
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:46,700
shoulder to shoulder us they can get me

944
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:47,570
out of here

945
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:50,090
you know cuz I mean I've been in many

946
00:42:55,150 --> 00:42:51,920
dangerous situations in my life but I

947
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,160
can't stand crowd scenes that's why I

948
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:57,440
can't stand Manhattan I Love New York I

949
00:43:01,870 --> 00:42:58,970
just can't stand that happen because

950
00:43:06,070 --> 00:43:01,880
your armpit are with people so what I'm

951
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:06,080
saying is it's just an everyday

952
00:43:10,540 --> 00:43:08,470
experience it should be something that

953
00:43:11,890 --> 00:43:10,550
everybody should talk about that should

954
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:11,900
be part of the common knowledge and

955
00:43:15,490 --> 00:43:13,970
Heidi it's just not right

956
00:43:19,090 --> 00:43:15,500
and I don't really know the answer why

957
00:43:20,830 --> 00:43:19,100
it's not makes no sense and you want to

958
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:20,840
bring people to the church and and I

959
00:43:25,150 --> 00:43:22,370
think things like this would really

960
00:43:28,510 --> 00:43:25,160
intrigue people people love mysteries

961
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:28,520
they love more special stories why not

962
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,330
inform the public oh you need to write

963
00:43:37,630 --> 00:43:34,960
another book Kevin in all honesty I

964
00:43:41,950 --> 00:43:37,640
probably do on Eucharistic miracles I

965
00:43:43,810 --> 00:43:41,960
probably do because that's not oh you

966
00:43:46,270 --> 00:43:43,820
know miracles in general that are not

967
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:46,280
widely known in the Catholic Church that

968
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:48,370
would be a great title

969
00:43:52,420 --> 00:43:51,110
well it really would I was gonna I was

970
00:43:54,070 --> 00:43:52,430
really gonna want to write one as I

971
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:54,080
mentioned earlier about the ones that

972
00:43:59,480 --> 00:43:56,130
are done in the RSA class got a little

973
00:44:02,930 --> 00:43:59,490
entry-level like the chill things I

974
00:44:05,150 --> 00:44:02,940
experienced and subsequent things it's

975
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,160
really good stuff it's as true as true

976
00:44:09,260 --> 00:44:07,200
gets no one's gonna make this up and

977
00:44:11,540 --> 00:44:09,270
like the stuff we just talked about in

978
00:44:14,570 --> 00:44:11,550
the Eucharistic miracles we're talking

979
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:14,580
about scientific testing labs the best

980
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:16,290
professors that you know poll is not

981
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:17,850
that small a country and if they get the

982
00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:19,650
two best forensic pathologists in the

983
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:22,200
country they're good believing I mean

984
00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:23,520
they could probably stand with anybody

985
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:26,940
right and and you know many of the

986
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:28,530
others and you know the Italians are

987
00:44:32,780 --> 00:44:30,330
great scientists always have been and

988
00:44:35,150 --> 00:44:32,790
they've examined a lot of these miracles

989
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:35,160
and the ones we discussed last twenty

990
00:44:39,410 --> 00:44:36,810
five years and just take it to the bank

991
00:44:41,180 --> 00:44:39,420
this is true stuff my hand member that

992
00:44:44,570 --> 00:44:41,190
russ berrie all that was just on with us

993
00:44:46,430 --> 00:44:44,580
I mean everybody and his brother not not

994
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:46,440
quite as much examination available to

995
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:48,110
the Shroud as other things but still

996
00:44:53,870 --> 00:44:50,490
there's been some examinations

997
00:44:55,580 --> 00:44:53,880
physically and uh this is not this is

998
00:44:57,350 --> 00:44:55,590
not a con the Catholic Church is not a

999
00:44:59,300 --> 00:44:57,360
con job as far as the miracles or

1000
00:45:00,740 --> 00:44:59,310
anything else if anything once again

1001
00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:00,750
they're very conservative what they

1002
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:03,980
represent is being true and they don't

1003
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:07,050
they kind of look at it Heidi is it boys

1004
00:45:10,130 --> 00:45:08,490
the faith up but your faith should

1005
00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:10,140
already be there anyway is kind of what

1006
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:13,260
it is that that's what they do but but

1007
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:15,300
in a nutshell though you're still right

1008
00:45:20,350 --> 00:45:17,610
that people should know something that's

1009
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:20,360
so miraculous it should certainly

1010
00:45:24,620 --> 00:45:22,710
deserve more attention the ghosts

1011
00:45:28,010 --> 00:45:24,630
through the Bigfoot or the UFOs popping

1012
00:45:32,330 --> 00:45:28,020
and bopping around I really would prefer

1013
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:32,340
to have the Christian miracles forward

1014
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:33,690
more than the other stuff because I

1015
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:36,330
think they're definitely more impressive

1016
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:39,450
they changed lives more well I got one

1017
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:41,850
for you on a lesser scale I'll tell you

1018
00:45:45,890 --> 00:45:43,200
this just before the break here's what

1019
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:45,900
it is there's a guy that's a relative of

1020
00:45:51,410 --> 00:45:48,210
a friend of mine she's my business

1021
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:51,420
partners wife and her brother is an evil

1022
00:45:59,630 --> 00:45:55,530
buzzard I mean gets in fights all the

1023
00:46:01,250 --> 00:45:59,640
time he's a bully's cruel to animals you

1024
00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:01,260
know and all this here's what happened

1025
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:05,600
this will blow your mind for some reason

1026
00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:09,359
this guy was drawn to a

1027
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,640
illuminated cross on the side of the

1028
00:46:15,319 --> 00:46:13,680
road in Texas okay and he took a photo

1029
00:46:18,140 --> 00:46:15,329
of it I don't know why this guy's not a

1030
00:46:21,259 --> 00:46:18,150
church oriented guy well he hadn't had

1031
00:46:23,479 --> 00:46:21,269
been to church in years okay okay what

1032
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:23,489
happened was he took this photo with his

1033
00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:26,450
cell phone okay

1034
00:46:35,089 --> 00:46:31,849
now after he took the photo he saw the

1035
00:46:36,769 --> 00:46:35,099
figure of an illuminated angel not with

1036
00:46:38,569 --> 00:46:36,779
distinct features but tastes basically

1037
00:46:42,620 --> 00:46:38,579
the outline to the left of this cross

1038
00:46:45,979 --> 00:46:42,630
that was not there when he took the

1039
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:45,989
photo and this guy believed mean that

1040
00:46:49,789 --> 00:46:47,730
doesn't have the technical knowledge nor

1041
00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:49,799
the inclination to phony anything up

1042
00:46:54,589 --> 00:46:51,660
this guy's like a curmudgeon kind of guy

1043
00:46:56,690 --> 00:46:54,599
yeah and if I ever got around him he was

1044
00:46:59,210 --> 00:46:56,700
mean to animals he'd be a crippled

1045
00:47:03,950 --> 00:46:59,220
command guy ponary that's a whole nother

1046
00:47:05,630 --> 00:47:03,960
story but but what I'm saying is and and

1047
00:47:09,499 --> 00:47:05,640
this woman showed me the photo

1048
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:09,509
but here's gets even dicey er she did

1049
00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:10,890
not know about a photo do you remember

1050
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:13,140
about a year ago someone was an accident

1051
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:16,049
scene and they took a photo of a fatal

1052
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:20,609
accident site and they and they to the

1053
00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:23,730
left of the same and the same figure was

1054
00:47:30,109 --> 00:47:28,140
a angelic looking figure right this

1055
00:47:34,099 --> 00:47:30,119
figure matched exactly the one in this

1056
00:47:35,870 --> 00:47:34,109
guy's photo oh wow come and this guy is

1057
00:47:37,609 --> 00:47:35,880
just a stumblebum wet he'd get a

1058
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:37,619
insurance settled but he has no more

1059
00:47:43,729 --> 00:47:39,660
technical expertise in the garbage man

1060
00:47:45,890 --> 00:47:43,739
you know and he's just a curmudgeon and

1061
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:45,900
he's not gonna try to promote churchy

1062
00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:47,730
things and he gave it to his sister who

1063
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,230
just showed me didn't give it to the

1064
00:47:54,890 --> 00:47:52,079
public to sell so what I'm saying is

1065
00:47:56,979 --> 00:47:54,900
these things happen all around us that's

1066
00:48:01,809 --> 00:47:56,989
all I'm really trying to say it around

1067
00:48:06,049 --> 00:48:01,819
and and people just do not do not

1068
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:06,059
appreciate it they really don't they

1069
00:48:14,589 --> 00:48:09,599
don't know and I don't understand how or

1070
00:48:17,569 --> 00:48:14,599
why I just really don't and like you say

1071
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:17,579
to do you think it's but some people are

1072
00:48:23,180 --> 00:48:21,410
drawn to it and some are not you know I

1073
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:23,190
unfortunately there's a

1074
00:48:28,250 --> 00:48:25,380
grudges out there in the world still in

1075
00:48:29,690 --> 00:48:28,260
regards to the scandal and they're like

1076
00:48:31,460 --> 00:48:29,700
well if they could lie about that they

1077
00:48:34,970 --> 00:48:31,470
could I about anything and I think some

1078
00:48:37,069 --> 00:48:34,980
people die because of it and but I also

1079
00:48:39,140 --> 00:48:37,079
think that people don't know to look for

1080
00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:39,150
it like I would have never thought you

1081
00:48:42,859 --> 00:48:40,470
know I bet there's things called

1082
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:42,869
Eucharistic miracles out there I would I

1083
00:48:49,130 --> 00:48:45,690
never guess never known I never heard it

1084
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:49,140
oh it's a whole field of study yeah well

1085
00:48:51,980 --> 00:48:50,400
study you can spend the rest of your

1086
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:51,990
life study in it and like I say these

1087
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:54,930
are high-level professionals no and also

1088
00:48:59,329 --> 00:48:56,310
the ones in Mexico they've got good

1089
00:49:03,130 --> 00:48:59,339
doctors too well how do you like myself

1090
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:03,140
who is pretty informed in odd stories

1091
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:06,089
miracles even and I've never heard of

1092
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:07,440
such a thing just because I'm not

1093
00:49:12,050 --> 00:49:09,569
Catholic you didn't think to let a

1094
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:12,060
person like me know or not advertise

1095
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:12,930
well I just never

1096
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:15,210
I just I wrote a book on Marian

1097
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,410
apparitions and I knew there were

1098
00:49:21,470 --> 00:49:18,720
Eucharistic miracles by just something

1099
00:49:24,050 --> 00:49:21,480
drew pushed me into right having this

1100
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:24,060
show oh yeah but I'm saying like to the

1101
00:49:27,770 --> 00:49:25,530
Catholic Church they they don't

1102
00:49:29,660 --> 00:49:27,780
advertise to a person like myself you

1103
00:49:32,089 --> 00:49:29,670
know it's like how did they reach people

1104
00:49:34,670 --> 00:49:32,099
like me you know well you usually

1105
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,680
wouldn't because as a norm like I say

1106
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:36,240
you have to probably be a Catholic to

1107
00:49:39,890 --> 00:49:37,530
even be able to discover there were

1108
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:39,900
Eucharistic miracles because like if

1109
00:49:44,839 --> 00:49:41,970
there are these places like in Italy and

1110
00:49:46,130 --> 00:49:44,849
Poland you could see that the physical

1111
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:46,140
evidence but you'd have to already be

1112
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:48,290
going to mastery or something right

1113
00:49:52,220 --> 00:49:50,970
we're just about in just a few minutes

1114
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:52,230
we're gonna go to our top of the hour

1115
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:55,290
break or well yeah top of the hour break

1116
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,690
but when we get back maybe we could look

1117
00:50:02,420 --> 00:49:59,520
up that saint generis one which is

1118
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:02,430
another Eucharistic miracle that you

1119
00:50:09,020 --> 00:50:05,510
have access to and I don't because yeah

1120
00:50:10,819 --> 00:50:09,030
pretty cool but I you know I will say

1121
00:50:15,260 --> 00:50:10,829
about Vegas though it is an intriguing

1122
00:50:18,109 --> 00:50:15,270
place it's a it's you know it's kind of

1123
00:50:20,569 --> 00:50:18,119
silly but it the the thing that I really

1124
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:20,579
actually enjoyed was just getting up for

1125
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:23,130
change of scenery and there's better

1126
00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:25,650
scenery yes certainly but still it was a

1127
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:33,390
good outing and you know euston

1128
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:35,760
hurricane not too far i mean it's a good

1129
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:36,450
distance

1130
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:38,609
why well I tell you what we'll talk

1131
00:50:42,579 --> 00:50:40,079
about we get right back we'll be right

1132
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:44,480
yeah Heidi we're of course were

1133
00:50:50,089 --> 00:50:47,130
mentioning the deal with the the

1134
00:50:53,329 --> 00:50:50,099
miracles but ed put a put a period to it

1135
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:53,339
Heidi i I really don't know it's it

1136
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:55,170
amazed me Heidi because until I got into

1137
00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:56,730
Catholicism I didn't knew I might have

1138
00:51:00,890 --> 00:50:58,440
heard a glimmer of something here and

1139
00:51:04,430 --> 00:51:00,900
there or there was a movie back in the

1140
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:04,440
day about Fatima that I watched and I

1141
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:06,510
was intrigued by that you know when I

1142
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:10,079
was a kid but and actually that was some

1143
00:51:14,690 --> 00:51:11,310
of the foundation and my love for

1144
00:51:18,010 --> 00:51:14,700
Catholicism and all that but what I'm

1145
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:18,020
saying though is mostly you hear nothing

1146
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:22,290
yeah that's a it's a shame you and I

1147
00:51:25,540 --> 00:51:23,730
didn't know about you Christic miracles

1148
00:51:31,220 --> 00:51:25,550
at all - I actually became a Catholic

1149
00:51:33,170 --> 00:51:31,230
yeah and you guys keep secrets really I

1150
00:51:35,540 --> 00:51:33,180
mean anybody's you know nobody's holding

1151
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:35,550
it from you it's just I don't know what

1152
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:37,290
the reason is it's almost like people

1153
00:51:43,849 --> 00:51:39,839
are drawn to he draws the ones he wants

1154
00:51:45,620 --> 00:51:43,859
to it I hurry out that and you know I

1155
00:51:47,450 --> 00:51:45,630
know there's some priestly shenanigans

1156
00:51:50,359 --> 00:51:47,460
that has no bearing on this whatsoever

1157
00:51:52,540 --> 00:51:50,369
don't play out by the way from being a

1158
00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:52,550
Protestant minister in a past life you

1159
00:52:00,140 --> 00:51:55,910
must know they've got their own

1160
00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:00,150
skeletons in the closet so huge so I

1161
00:52:05,809 --> 00:52:03,720
mean you know it's in other words

1162
00:52:07,370 --> 00:52:05,819
there's frailties in human nature's just

1163
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:07,380
there's a lot more priests there's a lot

1164
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:10,800
more opportunity for flaws you know but

1165
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:15,440
it's just that but mankind is always

1166
00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:19,200
from a but these the real truth and

1167
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:21,000
beauty in this is it's as true as true

1168
00:52:25,339 --> 00:52:23,490
gets you could examine I mean you're not

1169
00:52:26,990 --> 00:52:25,349
gonna do any better than Sandia Labs I

1170
00:52:29,450 --> 00:52:27,000
don't care what [\h__\h] you've got to

1171
00:52:35,630 --> 00:52:29,460
just look at it or German lab or anybody

1172
00:52:39,050 --> 00:52:35,640
else this is good stuff everybody look

1173
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:39,060
it up yeah I wanted to you know put

1174
00:52:44,740 --> 00:52:40,650
thoughts in prison through the folks in

1175
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:44,750
Houston I mean you at the same state and

1176
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:48,210
I mean there had to be troubling to an

1177
00:52:52,759 --> 00:52:50,130
extent you're in Vegas though

1178
00:52:55,490 --> 00:52:52,769
to see this I was watching a lot of it

1179
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:55,500
on Fox News see it oh by the way on a

1180
00:53:00,650 --> 00:52:57,930
happier note even though my wonderful

1181
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:00,660
megyn kelly shoved off Fox News has

1182
00:53:05,749 --> 00:53:03,690
replaced her with ten times more there's

1183
00:53:09,140 --> 00:53:05,759
a new show they've got called the five

1184
00:53:11,180 --> 00:53:09,150
and let me tell you something I don't

1185
00:53:13,999 --> 00:53:11,190
know how they cast these women for their

1186
00:53:16,849 --> 00:53:14,009
parts but if you went to a strip joint

1187
00:53:19,930 --> 00:53:16,859
and picked the five prettiest women out

1188
00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:19,940
of every strip then heaven had a

1189
00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:22,470
selection process to see who could read

1190
00:53:27,890 --> 00:53:25,369
the news well that's who they picked I

1191
00:53:30,650 --> 00:53:27,900
mean in other words you've got to be a

1192
00:53:35,089 --> 00:53:30,660
movie a play by a Playboy

1193
00:53:37,220 --> 00:53:35,099
starlet to make the fox news but getting

1194
00:53:41,690 --> 00:53:37,230
back to the story though they had

1195
00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:41,700
excellent coverage of this this terrible

1196
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:43,230
event and I was watching it Mars in

1197
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:45,210
Vegas quite a bit of it some that was

1198
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:47,569
repetitive but Heidi we're talking about

1199
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:52,079
amazing amazing difficulty these poor

1200
00:53:59,529 --> 00:53:54,569
guys have been through amazing yeah

1201
00:54:03,249 --> 00:53:59,539
I mean high kingswood is a oh it's a

1202
00:54:09,019 --> 00:54:03,259
upscale northern suburb of Houston okay

1203
00:54:12,019 --> 00:54:09,029
and what happened was it wasn't bad

1204
00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:12,029
enough at the place flooded but the

1205
00:54:17,089 --> 00:54:14,220
sewage got loose from the local sewage

1206
00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:17,099
what it out and their treasure

1207
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:19,500
everywhere it's gross they're trudging

1208
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:22,170
through it I mean my I mean really Heidi

1209
00:54:26,059 --> 00:54:23,609
all that's good for that place is good

1210
00:54:28,490 --> 00:54:26,069
for us a bulldozer I mean I don't know

1211
00:54:31,329 --> 00:54:28,500
anything so precious that you slop the

1212
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:31,339
sewage off of it to keep it you know and

1213
00:54:39,470 --> 00:54:36,930
but that's how rough it was and but

1214
00:54:41,660 --> 00:54:39,480
there has been a tremendous groundswell

1215
00:54:45,529 --> 00:54:41,670
of help coming to those people more than

1216
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:45,539
I've ever seen there's that one JJ Watt

1217
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:47,250
he's a football player from the Houston

1218
00:54:57,650 --> 00:54:51,210
though yeah Texans he's raised 25

1219
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:57,660
million taller time yeah Walmart through

1220
00:55:03,319 --> 00:55:00,720
its auspices has braised north of 25

1221
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:03,329
million dollars and this on and on on

1222
00:55:05,890 --> 00:55:04,049
and we've seen

1223
00:55:09,140 --> 00:55:05,900
many different companies similar

1224
00:55:10,839 --> 00:55:09,150
responded very well and a lot of people

1225
00:55:13,339 --> 00:55:10,849
have done more than that they've Oh

1226
00:55:15,140 --> 00:55:13,349
golly they've come over from Louisiana

1227
00:55:18,019 --> 00:55:15,150
they got airboats and stuff

1228
00:55:20,779 --> 00:55:18,029
fishing dogs and people out of the drain

1229
00:55:23,299 --> 00:55:20,789
do you know that the big effort from

1230
00:55:26,419 --> 00:55:23,309
Chicagoans was coming down and getting

1231
00:55:28,849 --> 00:55:26,429
people's strayed pets and bringing them

1232
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:28,859
back yeah yes yes I'd heard of things

1233
00:55:40,509 --> 00:55:37,419
I was floored this all again because

1234
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:40,519
hurricane Irma is about to bear down it

1235
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:42,569
it's just crazy

1236
00:55:48,709 --> 00:55:45,359
this weathers crazy well it is it is but

1237
00:55:50,089 --> 00:55:48,719
but like I say unfortunately you see

1238
00:55:53,029 --> 00:55:50,099
most hurricanes that hit Florida aren't

1239
00:55:55,609 --> 00:55:53,039
that bad I mean a hurricane a five

1240
00:55:57,739 --> 00:55:55,619
number five on the scale hurricanes very

1241
00:56:00,410 --> 00:55:57,749
rare usually they're milder hurricanes

1242
00:56:02,329 --> 00:56:00,420
like a category one or two and I'm not

1243
00:56:05,089 --> 00:56:02,339
minimizing it you know I mean it's still

1244
00:56:07,059 --> 00:56:05,099
dangerous but you got to understand

1245
00:56:09,979 --> 00:56:07,069
Miami's practically under water already

1246
00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:09,989
it really needs to have what he called

1247
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:11,910
dikes like Holland that protect it you

1248
00:56:18,140 --> 00:56:16,529
know and does and I know with global

1249
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:18,150
warming and sea level rising I know

1250
00:56:25,759 --> 00:56:21,089
that's an issue I know that but what I'm

1251
00:56:27,979 --> 00:56:25,769
saying is a category five is a rare

1252
00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:27,989
commodity I mean we're usually in

1253
00:56:33,949 --> 00:56:30,209
Florida I can I'd live part of my life

1254
00:56:35,569 --> 00:56:33,959
in Florida and usually what it is is a

1255
00:56:38,029 --> 00:56:35,579
hurricane will come up the coast and

1256
00:56:41,779 --> 00:56:38,039
it'll take a northeastern swath and

1257
00:56:43,819 --> 00:56:41,789
it'll slice it around a piece of Florida

1258
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:43,829
then go out to sea and take a northern

1259
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:46,079
Pat path maybe hit Cape Hatteras in

1260
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:47,910
North Carolina and then go up off the

1261
00:56:51,769 --> 00:56:49,890
Jersey coast or something but it gets

1262
00:56:54,949 --> 00:56:51,779
you know more we're on down the further

1263
00:56:57,859 --> 00:56:54,959
colder waters it goes in but the bad

1264
00:56:59,120 --> 00:56:57,869
ones and thankfully this one doesn't

1265
00:57:00,739 --> 00:56:59,130
look like it's going to do that would

1266
00:57:03,410 --> 00:57:00,749
have given a one-two punch to the Gulf

1267
00:57:05,959 --> 00:57:03,420
Coast because see when they go in a

1268
00:57:07,549 --> 00:57:05,969
pattern that cuts around the Horn of

1269
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:07,559
Florida up into the Gulf Coast the

1270
00:57:11,269 --> 00:57:09,119
waters are warmer off the Gulf and they

1271
00:57:13,699 --> 00:57:11,279
are off the Atlantic and with the warm

1272
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:13,709
waters it picks up more speed now can

1273
00:57:17,319 --> 00:57:15,569
you imagine a one-two punch for Houston

1274
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:17,329
after that

1275
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:20,130
hey that would have really been deadly I

1276
00:57:25,220 --> 00:57:23,130
mean you're talking you know kiss a

1277
00:57:28,460 --> 00:57:25,230
goodbye deadly well they're saying this

1278
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:28,470
one is much worse than usual I guess the

1279
00:57:33,890 --> 00:57:31,650
ones that are usually formed over I say

1280
00:57:36,740 --> 00:57:33,900
okay keep their day or something that

1281
00:57:38,809 --> 00:57:36,750
that more are they're more powerful

1282
00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:38,819
coming from that region or something

1283
00:57:44,930 --> 00:57:41,369
right Wow well in the direction it's

1284
00:57:48,980 --> 00:57:44,940
taking in the speed it's got its gonna

1285
00:57:50,660 --> 00:57:48,990
hit Florida probably as a five yeah and

1286
00:57:53,059 --> 00:57:50,670
then it'll dissipate as it goes further

1287
00:57:56,270 --> 00:57:53,069
north yes but I mean you're talking

1288
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:56,280
about just the storm surge alone there's

1289
00:58:00,650 --> 00:57:58,319
no telling I mean you know the water

1290
00:58:03,859 --> 00:58:00,660
being pushed by the hurricane itself not

1291
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:03,869
the rain but just the water surge I mean

1292
00:58:07,250 --> 00:58:05,369
like I say it doesn't take anything to

1293
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:07,260
flood Miami well you know what I'm

1294
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:09,839
reading right now is the most highest

1295
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:14,160
sustained winds on record was a hundred

1296
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:17,520
and ninety miles per hour and Irma is a

1297
00:58:22,670 --> 00:58:19,680
185 miles per hour

1298
00:58:26,140 --> 00:58:22,680
yep I do not he's the absolute max that

1299
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:26,150
yeah it was hurricane Allen in 1980 and

1300
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:32,400
and then second place it is Irma house

1301
00:58:39,230 --> 00:58:35,520
you're talking serious storms yes and

1302
00:58:41,450 --> 00:58:39,240
but there's other storms Gilbert Wilma

1303
00:58:44,839 --> 00:58:41,460
and Labor Day they call it you they

1304
00:58:47,420 --> 00:58:44,849
called it Labor Day where 80 185 as well

1305
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:47,430
so crazy this is right up there at the

1306
00:58:52,430 --> 00:58:50,730
max yeah yeah well I don't know a Heidi

1307
00:58:56,270 --> 00:58:52,440
it usually gets a little stronger just

1308
00:58:59,240 --> 00:58:56,280
before it hits yeah that's very fine so

1309
00:59:00,559 --> 00:58:59,250
I mean I don't know I mean uh well see

1310
00:59:02,420 --> 00:59:00,569
that's the trouble in living within

1311
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:02,430
these areas I mean you're talking about

1312
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:05,609
oh my goodness it's so fragile Heidi I

1313
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:08,880
mean I've been in Houston for example I

1314
00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:11,369
was driving through there years ago when

1315
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:13,849
they had a lousy five or six inch rain

1316
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:17,119
and the highways were were passable yes

1317
00:59:22,550 --> 00:59:20,730
is there elevated and all that but what

1318
00:59:24,530 --> 00:59:22,560
I'm saying is I was looking down at the

1319
00:59:27,390 --> 00:59:24,540
city from the lousy five and six inch

1320
00:59:31,620 --> 00:59:27,400
rain which is not that uncommon yeah

1321
00:59:33,150 --> 00:59:31,630
and I mean Nashville got 12 inches which

1322
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:33,160
was the remnant of the hurricane that

1323
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:36,970
hit Texas Harvey so I mean all the way

1324
00:59:41,970 --> 00:59:39,210
to Nashville was 12 inches so I'm saying

1325
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:41,980
5 or 6 inches no big deal but you looked

1326
00:59:45,089 --> 00:59:43,510
at Houston with 5 or 6 inches you're

1327
00:59:48,269 --> 00:59:45,099
thinking my god they're gonna lose homes

1328
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:48,279
out of this and this thing was a magnet

1329
00:59:55,079 --> 00:59:50,890
this was like 50 inches of rain 50 I

1330
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:55,089
know it's like I mean just over 4 foot

1331
01:00:01,650 --> 00:59:57,730
it was crazy man

1332
01:00:03,329 --> 01:00:01,660
and believe me these people and I was

1333
01:00:05,309 --> 01:00:03,339
talking to Joe before the show one of

1334
01:00:08,690 --> 01:00:05,319
the other problems which hasn't been

1335
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:08,700
mentioned is Heidi

1336
01:00:16,859 --> 01:00:15,369
well they have a lot of nasty chemical

1337
01:00:18,839 --> 01:00:16,869
plants that was one thing I never could

1338
01:00:21,809 --> 01:00:18,849
stand living in Houston was the smell of

1339
01:00:23,309 --> 01:00:21,819
the place and different not not all of

1340
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:23,319
it but I mean different locations the

1341
01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:24,960
eastern part of the city especially

1342
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:28,240
around Beaumont and all that and because

1343
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:30,130
they have terrible chemical plants and

1344
01:00:35,370 --> 01:00:32,319
they're not making like you know nice

1345
01:00:37,410 --> 01:00:35,380
things they're making like you know blow

1346
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:37,420
your head off kind of stuff I mean toxic

1347
01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:40,480
stuff and and these waters have swamped

1348
01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:43,480
these toxic chemical plants and released

1349
01:00:48,059 --> 01:00:45,190
a lot of these terrible chemicals into

1350
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:48,069
the ecosystem so it's absorbed into the

1351
01:00:55,099 --> 01:00:51,910
houses the grounds the food wildlife

1352
01:00:57,710 --> 01:00:55,109
everything I mean this is some bad stuff

1353
01:01:00,359 --> 01:00:57,720
inside of people's homes

1354
01:01:02,250 --> 01:01:00,369
well you had other weird things happen

1355
01:01:05,309 --> 01:01:02,260
like I guess was covered in your areas

1356
01:01:07,890 --> 01:01:05,319
what happened was the waters killed the

1357
01:01:09,059 --> 01:01:07,900
cooling generators to some chemical

1358
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:09,069
plant yeah

1359
01:01:12,329 --> 01:01:10,990
and this whatever the chemicals were

1360
01:01:14,910 --> 01:01:12,339
would weren't cooled so they were

1361
01:01:17,390 --> 01:01:14,920
combustible and and he had terrible

1362
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:17,400
fires with this awful smoke from this

1363
01:01:24,859 --> 01:01:19,599
toxic chemical going all over and this

1364
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:24,869
is tough stuff but I mean well I mean

1365
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:27,730
it's just a rough place I would live in

1366
01:01:33,690 --> 01:01:31,690
Houston anymore I'd California first and

1367
01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:33,700
that's saying something I mean that's

1368
01:01:38,579 --> 01:01:36,670
like I'm not a California fan but I

1369
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:38,589
would move to LA before I'd live in

1370
01:01:43,870 --> 01:01:39,530
Houston

1371
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:43,880
and that's saying a lot it is it is but

1372
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:46,160
but I mean Houston is just a tough place

1373
01:01:52,690 --> 01:01:50,450
and it's also oh my goodness under the

1374
01:01:57,310 --> 01:01:52,700
best of circumstances it's 95 degrees

1375
01:01:58,330 --> 01:01:57,320
every day and 100% humidity it's a lot

1376
01:02:02,080 --> 01:01:58,340
like Jacksonville

1377
01:02:04,810 --> 01:02:02,090
with you but Jacksonville is like that

1378
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:04,820
only it's prettier but a lot of

1379
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:07,310
Chicagoans moved straight to Houston and

1380
01:02:12,220 --> 01:02:08,210
I'm not kidding

1381
01:02:14,260 --> 01:02:12,230
my niece moved to Houston just a few

1382
01:02:18,820 --> 01:02:14,270
days maybe five days before the

1383
01:02:21,490 --> 01:02:18,830
hurricane hit and loli yeah yeah she

1384
01:02:23,350 --> 01:02:21,500
luckily she is fine she didn't have any

1385
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:23,360
flooding where she was kept her

1386
01:02:28,300 --> 01:02:26,720
electricity she was very fortunate well

1387
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:28,310
you know for the only thing that hit up

1388
01:02:34,990 --> 01:02:31,130
here was just lasted a couple days was

1389
01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:35,000
there was a gas shortage but I mean just

1390
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:37,430
regular automobile gas but that only

1391
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:39,650
lasted a day or two I got gassed the

1392
01:02:44,170 --> 01:02:42,290
very next day but but but in San Antonio

1393
01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:44,180
like I mentioned on the news that's a

1394
01:02:49,690 --> 01:02:45,920
big old town and they were absolutely

1395
01:02:50,860 --> 01:02:49,700
out of gas now to see and hear in this

1396
01:02:52,420 --> 01:02:50,870
area they can bring it down from

1397
01:02:54,610 --> 01:02:52,430
Oklahoma cos rolling 100 miles to the

1398
01:02:56,020 --> 01:02:54,620
Oklahoma border and you know there's

1399
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:56,030
plenty of other refineries I'm sure

1400
01:03:00,220 --> 01:02:58,010
Chicago wasn't affected negatively from

1401
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:00,230
the Gulf Coast refineries but there's

1402
01:03:06,010 --> 01:03:04,130
also I can't emphasize enough how bad

1403
01:03:08,740 --> 01:03:06,020
the chemicals are down there that

1404
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:08,750
they're manufacturing creamy Jersey

1405
01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:11,810
Jersey unfortunately uh you know I like

1406
01:03:17,500 --> 01:03:13,520
Jersey but it's a rough place for

1407
01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:17,510
chemicals to and Jersey Jersey and South

1408
01:03:25,810 --> 01:03:19,520
Texas is where all the nasty stuff is

1409
01:03:27,370 --> 01:03:25,820
developed terrible and you know Jersey

1410
01:03:29,020 --> 01:03:27,380
usually would get this with a hurricane

1411
01:03:30,910 --> 01:03:29,030
it's usually not kind of mild since it's

1412
01:03:34,030 --> 01:03:30,920
so far north but I mean this is some

1413
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:34,040
interesting material and I don't know

1414
01:03:39,700 --> 01:03:38,570
Heidi it's it's just you know you know

1415
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:39,710
we'll come back we'll talk about the

1416
01:03:45,070 --> 01:03:41,330
global warming and some other issues but

1417
01:03:46,780 --> 01:03:45,080
you know I don't know Heidi it's I know

1418
01:03:48,660 --> 01:03:46,790
there's global warming any but you'd

1419
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:48,670
have to be an idiot not to realize that

1420
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:50,930
you know the temperatures have gone up

1421
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:52,130
compared to what they were when I was

1422
01:03:56,890 --> 01:03:53,570
younger

1423
01:03:58,390 --> 01:03:56,900
but you know the obvious records of the

1424
01:03:59,800 --> 01:03:58,400
average temperature going up but what

1425
01:04:01,030 --> 01:03:59,810
I'm saying is I don't know what's

1426
01:04:04,780 --> 01:04:01,040
causing it and I don't think they do

1427
01:04:08,380 --> 01:04:04,790
either but you can surmise but we don't

1428
01:04:09,820 --> 01:04:08,390
know anyhow we'll be right back and it

1429
01:04:15,010 --> 01:04:09,830
could be we'll be right back

1430
01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:15,020
for an extra lesson well Heidi it's good

1431
01:04:17,980 --> 01:04:16,400
to be back with you now that I was gonna

1432
01:04:19,450 --> 01:04:17,990
tell you about the fabled evil

1433
01:04:23,950 --> 01:04:19,460
brother-in-law we've talked about on the

1434
01:04:25,870 --> 01:04:23,960
show before yes what happened was he cut

1435
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:25,880
his toes with some glass you know he's

1436
01:04:30,730 --> 01:04:27,530
in sandals and he cut his toe with some

1437
01:04:33,250 --> 01:04:30,740
glass evidently his diabetes has gone to

1438
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:33,260
the point where I guess they get so they

1439
01:04:39,070 --> 01:04:36,650
don't heal well or something yeah and he

1440
01:04:42,570 --> 01:04:39,080
got gangrene in the foot and they had a

1441
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:42,580
lot to toes off that's typical diabetics

1442
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:47,210
it does happen that way oh yes so I mean

1443
01:04:52,570 --> 01:04:49,010
it I thought he'd gone and got his

1444
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:52,580
diabetes reversed well he took the stem

1445
01:04:57,610 --> 01:04:55,370
cells but it didn't take I thought it

1446
01:05:01,690 --> 01:04:57,620
did at one point it did it did it did

1447
01:05:04,900 --> 01:05:01,700
initially but then he receded it was a

1448
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:04,910
cure he did try in Mexico yes he did but

1449
01:05:11,230 --> 01:05:09,290
it didn't reverse their diabetes just so

1450
01:05:16,330 --> 01:05:11,240
you know full-blown diabetes and a

1451
01:05:18,730 --> 01:05:16,340
sister of mine well no no just losing

1452
01:05:20,140 --> 01:05:18,740
the weight and getting active oh oh no

1453
01:05:22,540 --> 01:05:20,150
I've heard of that before I've heard of

1454
01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:22,550
that yeah but it depends on what stage

1455
01:05:26,860 --> 01:05:24,470
you are and how it's developed and I

1456
01:05:28,660 --> 01:05:26,870
understand this guy's about six-two and

1457
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:28,670
he's been as high as 300 pounds for many

1458
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:32,170
years and I mean he's the kind of guy

1459
01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:35,810
well imagine you two double hamburgers

1460
01:05:42,550 --> 01:05:40,640
at a session and then and I'm talking

1461
01:05:44,500 --> 01:05:42,560
about with fries and milkshakes and all

1462
01:05:47,730 --> 01:05:44,510
that I mean nobody that's why I spotted

1463
01:05:51,610 --> 01:05:47,740
in Vegas no these are bigger than him

1464
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:51,620
but I'm we're talking about people that

1465
01:05:55,990 --> 01:05:54,770
would just blow your mind but but what

1466
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:56,000
I'm saying is you know I don't wish that

1467
01:06:02,640 --> 01:05:57,920
on him you know I have some fondness for

1468
01:06:05,470 --> 01:06:02,650
him in spite of his evil but I mean he

1469
01:06:07,130 --> 01:06:05,480
they had to lop two toes off and I my

1470
01:06:09,550 --> 01:06:07,140
understanding is

1471
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:09,560
he may have to wind up losing the foot

1472
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:11,520
Wow

1473
01:06:17,180 --> 01:06:14,510
but I have heard that I have heard that

1474
01:06:18,740 --> 01:06:17,190
certain extreme diabetics could I guess

1475
01:06:21,890 --> 01:06:18,750
what is the vein system just

1476
01:06:24,170 --> 01:06:21,900
deteriorates or infections then yeah

1477
01:06:26,690 --> 01:06:24,180
it's like if you're diabetic and you

1478
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:26,700
have to get surgery period or something

1479
01:06:31,850 --> 01:06:28,530
or you get a cut anywhere it just does

1480
01:06:34,670 --> 01:06:31,860
not heal like a regular person without

1481
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:34,680
diabetes it's it's a terrible blood

1482
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:37,530
circulation just reduces just doesn't

1483
01:06:40,610 --> 01:06:38,730
heal the same I don't really have a

1484
01:06:43,130 --> 01:06:40,620
problem course I'm just a borderline

1485
01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:43,140
diabetic I'm not really your diabetics

1486
01:06:47,060 --> 01:06:45,510
dog I get that I do is the dog getting

1487
01:06:48,530 --> 01:06:47,070
fights all the time and they want to buy

1488
01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:48,540
techniques or try to bite the other dog

1489
01:06:54,140 --> 01:06:51,150
and I'm arms full scars and cuts

1490
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:54,150
I feel pretty I heal pretty quick I mean

1491
01:06:59,980 --> 01:06:55,530
like almost instantly

1492
01:07:07,390 --> 01:07:04,610
but you know it's so crazy though I

1493
01:07:10,490 --> 01:07:07,400
don't know if you've heard of wonderful

1494
01:07:12,890 --> 01:07:10,500
supplement of turmeric and I was taken

1495
01:07:15,470 --> 01:07:12,900
to yes I take tumeric every day oh let

1496
01:07:17,570 --> 01:07:15,480
me tell you this is crazy so i i'm i was

1497
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:17,580
taking turmeric for maybe six months and

1498
01:07:22,220 --> 01:07:20,130
and i noticed i was starting to bruise

1499
01:07:24,140 --> 01:07:22,230
easily and i'm like it if i got a

1500
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:24,150
scratch it just bled and I'm like what

1501
01:07:27,740 --> 01:07:25,410
is going on

1502
01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:27,750
I like oh you know leukemia these are

1503
01:07:31,580 --> 01:07:29,280
like symptoms of that I go to my doctor

1504
01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:31,590
and they're like oh do you know that

1505
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:33,900
timmreck does this to you it thins your

1506
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:37,170
blood out and causes easy bruising and

1507
01:07:43,070 --> 01:07:40,650
bleeding I'm like oh my goodness so

1508
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:43,080
that's something to beware and no that

1509
01:07:47,540 --> 01:07:45,450
happened so well I take it it has other

1510
01:07:49,220 --> 01:07:47,550
I've listed coast to coast shows and it

1511
01:07:51,860 --> 01:07:49,230
was supposed to be so wonderful about to

1512
01:07:55,580 --> 01:07:51,870
mercs I've been taking in time now and I

1513
01:07:59,720 --> 01:07:55,590
don't I don't have any diabetes but yeah

1514
01:08:02,840 --> 01:07:59,730
taking it - yeah not a good than too

1515
01:08:05,140 --> 01:08:02,850
much well gee whiz well bead what you

1516
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:05,150
know actually that's the trouble is that

1517
01:08:11,330 --> 01:08:09,570
there my doctor told me once he was an

1518
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:11,340
allergist I was going to yeah because

1519
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:12,930
there's bad allergies in Texas with the

1520
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:14,640
pollens and the dust that comes down

1521
01:08:20,140 --> 01:08:18,090
from the you know the desert he said he

1522
01:08:22,959 --> 01:08:20,150
knew a guy

1523
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:22,969
hold a peach pit in his hand and have an

1524
01:08:28,090 --> 01:08:25,370
allergic reaction in other words are

1525
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:28,100
such an extreme case of allergy and

1526
01:08:33,789 --> 01:08:31,370
there's people that have simple dimple

1527
01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:33,799
stuff like you know some compound you'd

1528
01:08:38,919 --> 01:08:36,409
find anywhere like raisins or something

1529
01:08:41,499 --> 01:08:38,929
and there's people that would croak from

1530
01:08:44,649 --> 01:08:41,509
that you know and it's just this amazing

1531
01:08:46,749 --> 01:08:44,659
variety of human reactions to common

1532
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:46,759
compounds as well I have a lot of

1533
01:08:51,849 --> 01:08:50,449
allergies and the one cool element that

1534
01:08:55,209 --> 01:08:51,859
I learned about people with allergies

1535
01:08:59,200 --> 01:08:55,219
like Joe who's sneezing like crazy today

1536
01:09:01,269 --> 01:08:59,210
is people with allergies are have a

1537
01:09:08,430 --> 01:09:01,279
greater reduction of getting cancers

1538
01:09:13,570 --> 01:09:11,890
oh yeah I didn't think about that but I

1539
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:13,580
guess their battles their systems are in

1540
01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:14,810
a battle with everything all the time

1541
01:09:18,490 --> 01:09:17,089
yeah constantly it does wear you down

1542
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:18,500
because you feel like you have a cold

1543
01:09:24,220 --> 01:09:22,250
all the time and that really aggravating

1544
01:09:25,570 --> 01:09:24,230
yeah in the summer I'm that way but you

1545
01:09:28,030 --> 01:09:25,580
know when I go to Vegas that's one

1546
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:28,040
things I did like about Vegas is that

1547
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,600
you know of course if you fly into Vegas

1548
01:09:34,450 --> 01:09:31,279
you probably have some time haven't you

1549
01:09:35,950 --> 01:09:34,460
oh yeah have you well what I'm saying is

1550
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:35,960
you know everything's dead around there

1551
01:09:41,740 --> 01:09:38,719
there's no nothing growing in green so

1552
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:41,750
you don't have the pollens that you'd

1553
01:09:46,180 --> 01:09:44,210
have other places and it's like a big

1554
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:46,190
allergy load is off of me when I go to

1555
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:48,890
Vegas and also when I go as east bad as

1556
01:09:54,970 --> 01:09:52,370
Mississippi I got to feel good there but

1557
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:54,980
what I'm saying is that it was a break

1558
01:10:00,010 --> 01:09:58,370
from that standpoint but um and I mean

1559
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:00,020
that would oh I know what I was gonna

1560
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:03,050
say is one thing I'm glad I don't have

1561
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:04,850
and I hope you don't have it you have a

1562
01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:09,170
nut allergy no good cuz I mean I would

1563
01:10:13,959 --> 01:10:11,360
kill me because I you know I'm begging

1564
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:13,969
enough a lot of my protein comes from

1565
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:17,210
nuts and so forth if I had a nut allergy

1566
01:10:21,820 --> 01:10:19,010
I might have to just pass away right

1567
01:10:23,740 --> 01:10:21,830
then cuz I mean you can only get out you

1568
01:10:27,490 --> 01:10:23,750
know you can only come up with proteins

1569
01:10:29,709 --> 01:10:27,500
just so many places that's general but

1570
01:10:31,629 --> 01:10:29,719
my fact after the show's over the trial

1571
01:10:33,250 --> 01:10:31,639
and I'll probably eat a hand of cashews

1572
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:33,260
or something together

1573
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:36,530
but she looks at that as a big treat but

1574
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:38,690
no Heidi that was interesting subject

1575
01:10:43,660 --> 01:10:40,010
matter we had earlier though it really

1576
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:43,670
was and I really don't understand why

1577
01:10:47,260 --> 01:10:45,530
this is a hidden issue like Europe you

1578
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:47,270
know you went to a Catholic college you

1579
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:50,480
got degrees and you got a religious

1580
01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:52,730
experiences and yet this was an untold

1581
01:10:59,020 --> 01:10:55,490
water uncharted waters for you truly

1582
01:11:01,690 --> 01:10:59,030
like us and I myself out in my former

1583
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:01,700
life I was even an Anglican ordained

1584
01:11:05,740 --> 01:11:04,640
Anglican deacon and a you know clergyman

1585
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:05,750
and I didn't know what I think about

1586
01:11:11,950 --> 01:11:09,920
Eucharistic miracles to speak of and you

1587
01:11:16,050 --> 01:11:11,960
would think that it would truly be

1588
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:16,060
common knowledge but it's not and I

1589
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:18,410
don't understand how these things can be

1590
01:11:21,310 --> 01:11:19,850
hidden from the public because the

1591
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:21,320
Catholic Church does not try to cover

1592
01:11:26,860 --> 01:11:24,290
them up in any way shape or form I mean

1593
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:26,870
you could go Lourdes look at you know

1594
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:29,570
crutches and all the remnants of miracle

1595
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,760
cures and you can go to or any one of

1596
01:11:35,230 --> 01:11:33,920
these Eucharistic miracle sites I

1597
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:35,240
mentioned if you could get over there

1598
01:11:44,890 --> 01:11:40,010
and see the oh did you look up the blood

1599
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:44,900
of generis you said I did it says

1600
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:46,610
Blenheim state generis has failed to

1601
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:50,510
liquify at the expected time prompting

1602
01:11:56,260 --> 01:11:52,970
concerns about what it might signify I I

1603
01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:56,270
don't quite follow what well I think

1604
01:12:00,820 --> 01:11:58,610
this blood had been liquefying and

1605
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:00,830
solidifying alternately on a certain

1606
01:12:06,490 --> 01:12:03,530
date for a couple hundred years or so oh

1607
01:12:08,380 --> 01:12:06,500
so it goes solid and then liquefies so

1608
01:12:09,730 --> 01:12:08,390
so they're there what if you don't have

1609
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:09,740
yeah if you don't have the data if you

1610
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:10,970
don't have the data on it won't bring it

1611
01:12:22,750 --> 01:12:20,740
as it always has that's what it wasn't

1612
01:12:26,020 --> 01:12:22,760
but I mean it had been doing this

1613
01:12:28,420 --> 01:12:26,030
miraculous function for ever in a day

1614
01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:28,430
and all of a sudden it didn't they

1615
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:30,560
didn't know what is kept in a sealed

1616
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:34,250
glass and traditionally liquefies three

1617
01:12:39,730 --> 01:12:36,710
times a year on September 19th December

1618
01:12:42,970 --> 01:12:39,740
16th and the Saturday before the first

1619
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:42,980
Sunday of May but it just did not

1620
01:12:49,330 --> 01:12:47,330
this past December December 2016

1621
01:12:51,010 --> 01:12:49,340
and I've had their mitts on this blood

1622
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:51,020
of genera since how long does it say

1623
01:12:59,790 --> 01:12:56,570
good say um around the Year 305 lat

1624
01:13:03,790 --> 01:12:59,800
who's believed to have been murdered Wow

1625
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:03,800
Wow okay well it that's well see here

1626
01:13:09,490 --> 01:13:05,090
again nobody's ever heard of that either

1627
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:09,500
till I brought never heard of such a

1628
01:13:13,930 --> 01:13:09,970
thing

1629
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:13,940
many miracles associated with the church

1630
01:13:17,740 --> 01:13:14,480
that

1631
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:17,750
oh I mean just tremendous amounts of

1632
01:13:24,610 --> 01:13:22,850
things there really are and what also in

1633
01:13:26,530 --> 01:13:24,620
doing the book on Marian apparitions I

1634
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:26,540
found out is you know of course I

1635
01:13:30,220 --> 01:13:28,130
highlighted the ones that were fairly

1636
01:13:33,220 --> 01:13:30,230
public knowledge like Fatima and you

1637
01:13:35,860 --> 01:13:33,230
know Lourdes and all that but for every

1638
01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:35,870
one of those there's like a thousand

1639
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:38,000
personal revelations they've had like

1640
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:39,920
you had with your Jesus appearances and

1641
01:13:45,990 --> 01:13:42,770
stuff like that right so that so that I

1642
01:13:48,820 --> 01:13:46,000
mean you're talking about untold numbers

1643
01:13:50,290 --> 01:13:48,830
that are just for the individual for the

1644
01:13:54,130 --> 01:13:50,300
most part and not for general

1645
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:54,140
publication and this is phenomenal stuff

1646
01:13:59,890 --> 01:13:57,890
it really is you know it's such a

1647
01:14:02,500 --> 01:13:59,900
laborious task writing a book you know

1648
01:14:03,970 --> 01:14:02,510
I'm here right of all the times Nick

1649
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:03,980
Redfern writes um you know during a

1650
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:06,050
lunch but I mean I thought you know

1651
01:14:13,660 --> 01:14:09,530
nervous but it doesn't need to be

1652
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:13,670
written yeah that sounds like it well it

1653
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:15,530
does I don't know what's coming up

1654
01:14:20,020 --> 01:14:18,530
Friday for you you know I have McDonald

1655
01:14:24,340 --> 01:14:20,030
coming on she's gonna be speaking about

1656
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:24,350
various alien and UFO sightings and

1657
01:14:31,090 --> 01:14:28,610
encounters and military abductions well

1658
01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:31,100
that's pretty good yeah I'm good

1659
01:14:37,870 --> 01:14:33,110
well I don't know I mom have to take

1660
01:14:39,820 --> 01:14:37,880
that in I guess but we've got some good

1661
01:14:41,650 --> 01:14:39,830
shows coming up too we've got some good

1662
01:14:42,970 --> 01:14:41,660
shows coming up - it's good to be back

1663
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:42,980
on the air we'd like to say we had a

1664
01:14:51,610 --> 01:14:49,520
little hiatus and well I needed it I

1665
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:51,620
hadn't been a wall around offer you know

1666
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:53,930
quite a while in the same year I kind of

1667
01:14:58,510 --> 01:14:55,520
want to get off to the mountain sometime

1668
01:15:00,520 --> 01:14:58,520
I think I'll do that come sometimes I

1669
01:15:02,740 --> 01:15:00,530
may go up to New York this winter for

1670
01:15:06,180 --> 01:15:02,750
a little bit nice I want it I want I

1671
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:06,190
want to go when it's as cold as possible

1672
01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:08,480
but anyway I guess we'd better tell